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Topic: MPI 1005 EZ DRYING ISSUES

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MPI 1005 EZ DRYING ISSUES

IVE HAD THE SEIKO 64 FOR ABOUT 2 MONTHS AND ALTHOUGH IT IS A GREAT "PRINTER" ITS NOT THE GREATEST "MACHINE"


THE LATEST ISSUE IS DRYING...ALTHOUGH I PURCHASED THE "CADILLAC"VERSION WITH THE DRYER, IM STILL HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE DRYING. ESPECIALLY ON CAST VINYLS. ONCE IT ROLLS UP...FORGET ABOUT IT...RUINS THE PRINT.


IVE TRIED IT ALL....TEMP SETTINGS ETC...


ANYONE OUTTHERE HAVING A SIMILAR PROBLEM OR HAVE A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM


SEIKO AND MY LOCAL REPS HAVE BEEN NO HELP


 


THANKS



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First of all - i don't use the Seiko dryer - i think it's a waste of money if you can build your own dryer 10 times cheaper. But one thing that everyone needs to understand - heating doesn't equal drying. You need extremely good air flow over the surface of the heated print in order to achieve drying. A row or two of 80mm or 120mm computer fans directed not perpendicular to the print surface, but rather at an acute angle, will do the job very well. Remember - always ventilate the surface of the heated print very strongly, and never do it perpendicularly to the printed surface. Do it downwards, so that the air flow won't go up to dry the printheads while they're moving above the printed surface.

Plus, you have to be aware of your ink limits - they might be too high.

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Hi!


If your prints are still sticky after passing through the dryer, then either the profile / ink limit you are using for the 1005EZ are not suitable or that the Seiko inks do not perform perfectly on the 1005.


Try other compatible media and if that doesn't help, try our inks for your Seiko!


Best regards,


Eliav Priel
Megaink USA



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Hehe :) It's always a good time to advertise, isn't it? :) I just want to say that Seiko inks are really badass for many media that are barely printable with hard solvent inks. We had adhesion problems on a couple of media, so we just didn't use it, until now, when we tried to print it with Seiko and it worked. However - indeed - it wasn't the 1005. It wasn't even Avery which we don't use, as a rule, because we had a lot of problems with many kinds of Avery media. Therefore we use other brands.

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Hey Joshie,


Yeah, why not - if I can back my words up with actions!...


Our inks perform very well on Avery media, especially on the 1005EZ which is a very popular PSV in the USA. At times, US end users HAVE to use the 1005EZ as this is the media some bids have as a requirment...


BR,


EP



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definately sounds like profiling issues to me. where did you source your profile from? was it canned or bespoke? the seiko dryer will help lots, but as joshie said it's not always the answer, as it will only do so much. perform an ink limit test to see what percentages your media can handle, and if not get a bespoke profile made. it may cost you, but the rewards will outway this.

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hi this product will not work on the colourpainter i spent two days testing and profileing this media and it will not work but the mpi 1900 cast will run on the colourpainter the only problem is avery have just recalled the last batch, if you are looking for a cast you should take a look at the mactac jt 5529 as it seems to print quite well but i would advise building your own profile but this is best for all media,s



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avery recalled loads of media over the pats 6 months. dummies.

anyhow, I don't think the ink you are using is the problem. i run the 1005 on our Vutek and when I started here we could never fully dry it. eventually I had to profile the media (the guy who did it before was no good) and things are better now.

from what I have read about the seiko inks they are very dense so i would imagine you need very little ink.

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Most solvent printer mfgrs do not recommend 1005 EZ because it will not dry. I asked Seiko and they told me that 1005EZ is not recommended to print on because of drying issues. I'm sure they told you the same thing???

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Guys, wake up!!!


It is not the printer and it is not the media!


The 1005EZ is a GREAT media. You simply need to use an ink type which will dry faster and adhere better to the 1005EZ.


Eliav



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that's crazy! Avery 1005 is a great media. I've had my Seiko installed for 4 days and have printed on the Avery perfectly.

Onyx has a built in profile for 1005EZ, and it runs extermely well. What RIP and settings are you running that you can't dry it??

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I have NEVER been able to use the take up spooler without ruining my prints. I always get rubbing spots on my print after rolling them up.  I had to take a couple tables and feed onto them its a pain but at least my prints don't get ruined.


By the way I am using seiko inks.



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are you using the slack or tension takeup mode?? I am running slack with no problems. not sure how it would rub if it was in slack mode. also, is it fully dried before you roll it up??

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I'm using the slack setting, but even with that I get rubbing. It doesnt mark up the ink but when you reflect the light on it you can see rubbing spots all over it. This pretty much ruins the prints. Plus handling a rolled up 15 ft print is pretty much not fun. I gave up trying after wasting a *hitload of material.


Also what is the deal with the printer feeding out about 3 feet of material before printing? This happens only if I dont clean it right before printing. I then have to lift the handle roll my material back line it up again and resend the file. Is this just my printer?? That is more frustrating than not being able to roll up a print.


 



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Sorry I just noticed this is for the MPI1005EZ vinyl.


I havent used that I have used 3m scotchcal film and controltach. not sure if it matters?



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