I have an Oce CS6060 (same as Seiko Colorpainter) and am wondering how the machine determines when the ink is out? Does it use the counter or actually sense when the cartridge is empty? The reason I am asking is because with the original cartridges, the counter stays at 2% for a very long time and when the ink finally runs out, the cartrige is completely empty. But when I switched to refilled cartridges with rechargeable chips they told me not to let the counter go below 2% or the chip may fry. I tried the first time to let it print after 2% and that ink color stopped printing completely after a while with no warning from the printer. When I removed the cartridge there was still about 100ml left. This seems strange that there would stil be ink but it would stop printing. The only thing I can think of is that the ink bag inside cartridge collapsed or something and no more ink could be sucked in. Whe the original carts. get very low, I hear some pumps come on and off periodically which makes me think it is sucking in ink.
Should I be able to keep printing after it reaches 2% with the recharged chips?
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the long post.
counter is counting how many ink was used and storing this data on chip (this value is shown on display). but this electronic counter is not there to stop machine, it's there to warn you about remaings of ink in cartridges. machine stops filling when secondary tank (in machine) is not filled by cartridges.
so, machine stops by mechanical sensor/switch on secondary tank.
I persume that they are not advising you to go beneath 2% because of air inside cartridges or because of ink itself...
hmm not sure how the recharged chips work but the old seikos i know. couldn't find out why the menu stays on 2% for so long, but the firmware constantly writes back to the chip on ink used therefore updating it as the ink is drained. the final write is done after the ink pump (that whirring noise) runs for a set time. basically the pump runs and if the sensor sees the wheel spin a certain amount of times and the sub-tank fill sensor deos not register that it's being filled, the firmware deems the cartridge empty and then writes a 0% level back to the chip and killing the cartridge.
i would say the 3rd party cartridges should work in the same why, apart from i don't know how they've bypassed the original chip certification, meaning they might not have the last gasp sensor to check the empty cartridge. therefore you may be sucking air and getting that into the ink lines (not good)
cartridges are here to store/give ink... chip is here to say how many ink is left in cartridge / is it empty or not...
so cartridge itself doesn't do anything. it want stop printer to print. ofcourse only if chip says that it's empty or cartridge itself is empty.
problem with 3rd party inks can be their quality or way it's filled / how package looks like...
ahoce sad that 100ml of ink was left in cartridge...
on original cartridges you use all ink from it. so it means that package in cartridge is very good. if there is no ink left it want let air to go inside... like you sad, pumps are working for defined time when "empty sub-tank" switch (in machine) is trigered - so for some time pumps are sucking empty cartridges, but no air is going in...
ofcours problem can also be in chips - maybe they didn't do good job with it after some time chip can't receive/store more or new informations and it finaly "burns out" and in that way saying to machine that it's empty or in error - stoping machine...
thanks for the replies. I guess my cartridge must have had air in it because it just kept on printing but no ink was printing and the ink wasn't completely empty. Make sense??
Hi there I newly aquired an oce 6060 printer fairly used , can some one tell me the dont's and do's of this printer and how reliable are rechargeable cartridge chips and chip resetting.
